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Dec 15, 2021

Pioneers and Pathfinders: John Mayer

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Today we continue our exploration of the efforts underway to close the justice gap with our guest, John Mayer, the executive director of the Center for Computer-Assisted Legal Instruction (CALI) at Chicago-Kent, the law school of the Illinois Institute of Technology (IIT). One of CALI’s key projects is A2J Author, a software tool that enables nontechnical stakeholders from the courts, legal services programs, and law schools to rapidly build and implement user-friendly interfaces for document assembly. A2J Guided Interviews remove many of the barriers faced by self-represented litigants, allowing them to easily complete court documents. It is a testament to how law, design, and technology working together can close the justice gap.

Listen in to today’s conversation with John to learn:

  • Why an engineer by education and self-described systems thinker chose to stay “law adjacent” rather than embarking on the chief information officer path.
  • How John’s participation in a joint project of Kent Law School and the Institute of Design at IIT on self-represented litigants laid the groundwork for A2J Author.
  • And why John believes automating court forms is one of the best ways for law students to learn the law.

Related Links

John Mayer on LinkedIn

John Mayer on Twitter

CALI Website

A2J Website

 


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